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	<title>Comments on: comment spam resistance</title>
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		<title>By: blog @ davegurnell.com</title>
		<link>http://simonhammond.com/blog/2005/03/22/comment-spam-resistance/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>blog @ davegurnell.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] der Web,  Geek. Leave a comment &#124; Trackback URL &#124; Comments RSS  	Following the simple anti comment spam measures suggested by Simon, I am trying a little experiment of by own. I have removed the C [...]</description>
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<p> 	Following the simple anti comment spam measures suggested by Simon, I am trying a little experiment of by own. I have removed the C [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DaveG</title>
		<link>http://simonhammond.com/blog/2005/03/22/comment-spam-resistance/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another point to note (quite obvious, this one):

CAPTCHAs don&#039;t affect trackback or pingback spam. In fact, in Wordpress 1.2 (which I&#039;m still using for DJBA and SquirrelWeb) I don&#039;t think disabling the admin option for &quot;Allow link notifications from other Weblogs (pingbacks and trackbacks.)&quot; actually does anything.

A quick remedy is to add a PHP die() to the beginning of the relevant files (wp-trackback.php and xmlrpc.php). However, this rather avoids the fact that trackbacks and pingbacks are cool. It&#039;s a shame to disable them.

Perhaps a way around this would be to add a &quot;blog URL&quot; field to the trackback request, which can be whitelisted or blacklisted accordingly. I wonder if Wordpress 1.5 does this (I remember something about whitelisting)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another point to note (quite obvious, this one):</p>
<p>CAPTCHAs don&#8217;t affect trackback or pingback spam. In fact, in WordPress 1.2 (which I&#8217;m still using for DJBA and SquirrelWeb) I don&#8217;t think disabling the admin option for &#8220;Allow link notifications from other Weblogs (pingbacks and trackbacks.)&#8221; actually does anything.</p>
<p>A quick remedy is to add a PHP die() to the beginning of the relevant files (wp-trackback.php and xmlrpc.php). However, this rather avoids the fact that trackbacks and pingbacks are cool. It&#8217;s a shame to disable them.</p>
<p>Perhaps a way around this would be to add a &#8220;blog URL&#8221; field to the trackback request, which can be whitelisted or blacklisted accordingly. I wonder if WordPress 1.5 does this (I remember something about whitelisting)?</p>
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		<title>By: DaveG</title>
		<link>http://simonhammond.com/blog/2005/03/22/comment-spam-resistance/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ll try it anyway... &lt;a href=&quot;http://djbigadventure.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DJBA&lt;/a&gt; is getting spam at the moment so I&#039;ll update it and we&#039;ll see what happens.

Whoops! Almost forgot to tick the box! What kind of goody goody human am I?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ll try it anyway&#8230; <a href="http://djbigadventure.com" rel="nofollow">DJBA</a> is getting spam at the moment so I&#8217;ll update it and we&#8217;ll see what happens.</p>
<p>Whoops! Almost forgot to tick the box! What kind of goody goody human am I?!</p>
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		<title>By: si</title>
		<link>http://simonhammond.com/blog/2005/03/22/comment-spam-resistance/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect that would probably stop most current spam-bots.  The danger is that if many blogs have the same structure then the form elements might still be reliably inferred.  Even if they aren&#039;t, spam-bots will probably just try random combinations because, hey, they don&#039;t care!  From their point of view it&#039;s better to leave some kind of trace than none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect that would probably stop most current spam-bots.  The danger is that if many blogs have the same structure then the form elements might still be reliably inferred.  Even if they aren&#8217;t, spam-bots will probably just try random combinations because, hey, they don&#8217;t care!  From their point of view it&#8217;s better to leave some kind of trace than none.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveG</title>
		<link>http://simonhammond.com/blog/2005/03/22/comment-spam-resistance/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about just renaming the form elements to be something else? For example (substitute square brackets for echelons):

[input name=&quot;melon&quot;/] Name (required)[br/]
[input name=&quot;bison&quot;/] Mail (will not be published) (required)[br/]
[input name=&quot;happy&quot;/] Website
[textarea name=&quot;airvent&quot;][/textarea]

I don&#039;t think spam bots will be able to interpret that, and it doesn&#039;t require ANY authentication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about just renaming the form elements to be something else? For example (substitute square brackets for echelons):</p>
<p>[input name="melon"/] Name (required)[br/]<br />
[input name="bison"/] Mail (will not be published) (required)[br/]<br />
[input name="happy"/] Website<br />
[textarea name="airvent"][/textarea]</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think spam bots will be able to interpret that, and it doesn&#8217;t require ANY authentication.</p>
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